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		<title>By: Ladyblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; I am Sometimes a Libertarian and Sometimes a Feminist, but Never Both at the Same Time</title>
		<link>http://toddseavey.com/2008/11/12/feuding-political-couples/comment-page-1/#comment-24010</link>
		<dc:creator>Ladyblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; I am Sometimes a Libertarian and Sometimes a Feminist, but Never Both at the Same Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The blog war between Kerry Howley and Will Wilkinson on one side and Todd Seavey on the other has attracted the attention of other bloggers, including our own Elizabeth Nolan Brown, and it&#8217;s such an interesting controversy that I can&#8217;t help weighing in (thereby perfecting the symmetry described here). The basic dilemma is easy to explain: Everybody agrees that women are treated differently than men in ways that sometimes make their lives difficult and constrain their choices; everybody also agrees that most of this discrimination stops short of a gun to the head; Kerry thinks that social pressure is a kind of coercion that libertarians should care about; Todd thinks social pressure is, at most, coercion-lite, and therefore not necessarily something that libertarians oppose. (Some might, but, Hell, some libertarians hate asparagus and we don&#8217;t make a plank out of that, even if the asparagus-haters are objectively correct.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The blog war between Kerry Howley and Will Wilkinson on one side and Todd Seavey on the other has attracted the attention of other bloggers, including our own Elizabeth Nolan Brown, and it&#8217;s such an interesting controversy that I can&#8217;t help weighing in (thereby perfecting the symmetry described here). The basic dilemma is easy to explain: Everybody agrees that women are treated differently than men in ways that sometimes make their lives difficult and constrain their choices; everybody also agrees that most of this discrimination stops short of a gun to the head; Kerry thinks that social pressure is a kind of coercion that libertarians should care about; Todd thinks social pressure is, at most, coercion-lite, and therefore not necessarily something that libertarians oppose. (Some might, but, Hell, some libertarians hate asparagus and we don&#8217;t make a plank out of that, even if the asparagus-haters are objectively correct.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Feuding libertarians &#171; Muse Free</title>
		<link>http://toddseavey.com/2008/11/12/feuding-political-couples/comment-page-1/#comment-23948</link>
		<dc:creator>Feuding libertarians &#171; Muse Free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] November 17, 2008 by Abhishek    I would not be doing my job as a libertarian blogger if I did not link to the blog war between Todd Seavey on the one hand and Kerry Howley/Will Wilkinson on the other. The best link (in the sense that it points to almost all the other relevant links) is the post by Todd above; navigate from there! Keep in mind that all the characters in the fight are multiply related &#8212; not only are they all writers for Reason magazine but there is a complex boyfriend/girlfriend/ex-boyfriend web that connects them &#8212; as Todd triumphantly describes. Enjoy! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] November 17, 2008 by Abhishek    I would not be doing my job as a libertarian blogger if I did not link to the blog war between Todd Seavey on the one hand and Kerry Howley/Will Wilkinson on the other. The best link (in the sense that it points to almost all the other relevant links) is the post by Todd above; navigate from there! Keep in mind that all the characters in the fight are multiply related &#8212; not only are they all writers for Reason magazine but there is a complex boyfriend/girlfriend/ex-boyfriend web that connects them &#8212; as Todd triumphantly describes. Enjoy! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ladyblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Libertarian Feminist Debate</title>
		<link>http://toddseavey.com/2008/11/12/feuding-political-couples/comment-page-1/#comment-23769</link>
		<dc:creator>Ladyblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Libertarian Feminist Debate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Anyway, for the past week or so, Howley and self-proclaimed punk-conservative Todd Seavey have been engaged in a back-and-forth on the issue of feminism and libertarianism, which Seavey would like to assure us young whippersnappers is an oxymoronal concept:  The Kerry view is news to me, and I’ve been a libertarian for about twenty years now. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Anyway, for the past week or so, Howley and self-proclaimed punk-conservative Todd Seavey have been engaged in a back-and-forth on the issue of feminism and libertarianism, which Seavey would like to assure us young whippersnappers is an oxymoronal concept:  The Kerry view is news to me, and I’ve been a libertarian for about twenty years now. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Seavey</title>
		<link>http://toddseavey.com/2008/11/12/feuding-political-couples/comment-page-1/#comment-23706</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Seavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, there&#039;s plenty to discuss on that front, obviously...but...not in this comment thread.  (And indeed, for more from me on any topic today, you&#039;ll have to check out http://PJTV.com during the 7pm Eastern hour.  Until then, adieu.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, there&#8217;s plenty to discuss on that front, obviously&#8230;but&#8230;not in this comment thread.  (And indeed, for more from me on any topic today, you&#8217;ll have to check out <a href="http://PJTV.com" rel="nofollow">http://PJTV.com</a> during the 7pm Eastern hour.  Until then, adieu.)</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Phil Donahue</title>
		<link>http://toddseavey.com/2008/11/12/feuding-political-couples/comment-page-1/#comment-23705</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Phil Donahue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that we&#039;ve settled our pop culture references, it&#039;s time for more drama. Does your new girlfriend have any interest in becoming a mother someday?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that we&#8217;ve settled our pop culture references, it&#8217;s time for more drama. Does your new girlfriend have any interest in becoming a mother someday?</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Seavey</title>
		<link>http://toddseavey.com/2008/11/12/feuding-political-couples/comment-page-1/#comment-23701</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Seavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now Sharpay sounds like a bully out of...wait a second..._High School Musical_?  Google reveals that that is the source of the &quot;Stick with the Status Quo&quot; lyrics above. 

Haven&#039;t seen those movies -- but Helen and I watched both the mid-60s &quot;wacky, Austin Powers-like&quot; and 2006 &quot;reboot&quot; version of _Casino Royale_, so I&#039;m prepared to do the theme song to _that_ in karaoke if it comes up.

I&#039;d forgotten that the 60s version _does_ actually find time to hit some of the same plot points, briefly, and depict Vesper (Ursula Andress) and Le Chiffre (Orson Welles), in between the more insane and memorable bits with Mata Hari, machine-gun bagpipes, bomb-filled milk trucks, Woody Allen, and go-go-boot-wearing hench-babes that so plainly inspired Austin Powers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now Sharpay sounds like a bully out of&#8230;wait a second&#8230;_High School Musical_?  Google reveals that that is the source of the &#8220;Stick with the Status Quo&#8221; lyrics above. </p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t seen those movies &#8212; but Helen and I watched both the mid-60s &#8220;wacky, Austin Powers-like&#8221; and 2006 &#8220;reboot&#8221; version of _Casino Royale_, so I&#8217;m prepared to do the theme song to _that_ in karaoke if it comes up.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d forgotten that the 60s version _does_ actually find time to hit some of the same plot points, briefly, and depict Vesper (Ursula Andress) and Le Chiffre (Orson Welles), in between the more insane and memorable bits with Mata Hari, machine-gun bagpipes, bomb-filled milk trucks, Woody Allen, and go-go-boot-wearing hench-babes that so plainly inspired Austin Powers.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharpay</title>
		<link>http://toddseavey.com/2008/11/12/feuding-political-couples/comment-page-1/#comment-23690</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharpay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re no Einsteinette, Todd!</description>
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		<title>By: Todd Seavey</title>
		<link>http://toddseavey.com/2008/11/12/feuding-political-couples/comment-page-1/#comment-23687</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Seavey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And even more like -- song lyrics from the Japanese cartoon _Naruto_!  &quot;Zeke&quot; is mocking us in song!  Anime song!  But he does not have the fox spirit sealed inside him!  My fighting will be the best, you&#039;ll see!  We&#039;ll beat him with tricks and fire!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And even more like &#8212; song lyrics from the Japanese cartoon _Naruto_!  &#8220;Zeke&#8221; is mocking us in song!  Anime song!  But he does not have the fox spirit sealed inside him!  My fighting will be the best, you&#8217;ll see!  We&#8217;ll beat him with tricks and fire!</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://toddseavey.com/2008/11/12/feuding-political-couples/comment-page-1/#comment-23656</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The previous comment reads uncannily like a horoscope, or a series of fortune cookies suggestions strung together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The previous comment reads uncannily like a horoscope, or a series of fortune cookies suggestions strung together.</p>
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		<title>By: Zeke</title>
		<link>http://toddseavey.com/2008/11/12/feuding-political-couples/comment-page-1/#comment-23655</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I see intelligence beyond compare, but inside you are stirring, and something strange is occurring. It&#039;s probably best to stick to the stuff you know and better by far to keep things as they are. Don&#039;t mess with the flow. Stick to the status quo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I see intelligence beyond compare, but inside you are stirring, and something strange is occurring. It&#8217;s probably best to stick to the stuff you know and better by far to keep things as they are. Don&#8217;t mess with the flow. Stick to the status quo.</p>
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