Comments on: DEBATE AT LOLITA BAR: “Did the Government Know in Advance About 9/11?” http://toddseavey.com/2007/10/30/debate-at-lolita-bar-did-the-government-know-in-advance-about-911/ Conservatism for punks. Sun, 12 Oct 2008 00:18:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.9 by: chucksheen http://toddseavey.com/2007/10/30/debate-at-lolita-bar-did-the-government-know-in-advance-about-911/#comment-5581 Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:35:44 +0000 http://toddseavey.com/2007/10/30/debate-at-lolita-bar-did-the-government-know-in-advance-about-911/#comment-5581 www.LooseChangeTheFinalCut.com www.RonPaul2008.com www.LooseChangeTheFinalCut.com

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]]> by: Michael Muset http://toddseavey.com/2007/10/30/debate-at-lolita-bar-did-the-government-know-in-advance-about-911/#comment-5202 Fri, 09 Nov 2007 01:52:36 +0000 http://toddseavey.com/2007/10/30/debate-at-lolita-bar-did-the-government-know-in-advance-about-911/#comment-5202 Unfortunately, the question for debate was “Did the Government Know in Advance About 9/11?” In order to come to any conclusion, we would first have to debate all of the many anomalies that occurred on that day. In my opinion, after tirelessly looking into as many of those anomalies as I could for the past six years, the strongest evidence in support of an inside job is in the building collapses. The White House has stonewalled most requests for evidence in support of their own conspiracy theory, but the physical attributes of the collapses are available for all of us to analyze. Dust is available to analyze. Photographs of melted box columns are available. Physics textbooks are available. I think we should have debated whether explosives were physically necessary to bring the three WTC towers down in the manner that they fell. After coming to a conclusion on that single topic, it will be much easier to debate “Did the Government Know in Advance About 9/11?” Unfortunately, the question for debate was “Did the Government Know in Advance About 9/11?” In order to come to any conclusion, we would first have to debate all of the many anomalies that occurred on that day. In my opinion, after tirelessly looking into as many of those anomalies as I could for the past six years, the strongest evidence in support of an inside job is in the building collapses.

The White House has stonewalled most requests for evidence in support of their own conspiracy theory, but the physical attributes of the collapses are available for all of us to analyze. Dust is available to analyze. Photographs of melted box columns are available. Physics textbooks are available.

I think we should have debated whether explosives were physically necessary to bring the three WTC towers down in the manner that they fell. After coming to a conclusion on that single topic, it will be much easier to debate “Did the Government Know in Advance About 9/11?”

]]> by: Janice Matthews http://toddseavey.com/2007/10/30/debate-at-lolita-bar-did-the-government-know-in-advance-about-911/#comment-5117 Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:40:37 +0000 http://toddseavey.com/2007/10/30/debate-at-lolita-bar-did-the-government-know-in-advance-about-911/#comment-5117 Hmm, Kissinger, yes ... as in, the first Bush appointee to Chair the INDEPENDENT 9/11 Commission... you know, the one who had to resign before the Commission got underway because he wouldn't come clean on his conflicts of interest. The one who was then replaced by 'independent' commissioners, each of whom had close ties to either the airline industry or the oil industry. I'm interested in how someone who defends the government's tale of what happened on 9/11 answers the simple question, "Why can't we have an independent investigation into the questions surrounding 9/11?" Particularly if we're going to spend trillions of dollars, kill millions of people, and destroy the very basis of our country's governance and our way of life based on what a commission tells us is truth... seems like a simple thing to ask, eh? One that, say, 51% of Americans want to see happen... Hmm, Kissinger, yes … as in, the first Bush appointee to Chair the INDEPENDENT 9/11 Commission… you know, the one who had to resign before the Commission got underway because he wouldn’t come clean on his conflicts of interest. The one who was then replaced by ‘independent’ commissioners, each of whom had close ties to either the airline industry or the oil industry. I’m interested in how someone who defends the government’s tale of what happened on 9/11 answers the simple question, “Why can’t we have an independent investigation into the questions surrounding 9/11?” Particularly if we’re going to spend trillions of dollars, kill millions of people, and destroy the very basis of our country’s governance and our way of life based on what a commission tells us is truth… seems like a simple thing to ask, eh? One that, say, 51% of Americans want to see happen…

]]> by: WeAreChange.org http://toddseavey.com/2007/10/30/debate-at-lolita-bar-did-the-government-know-in-advance-about-911/#comment-5066 Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:43:29 +0000 http://toddseavey.com/2007/10/30/debate-at-lolita-bar-did-the-government-know-in-advance-about-911/#comment-5066 70% percent of family members questions were UNANSWERED during the 9/11 commission. Whoever feels that the govt. told us the complete and correct story is turning blind eyes and ears to murder. And how on Earth can anyone believe what we've been told about 9/11 by a complicit govt. when this criminal administration has lied to us almost every day since ... http://www.ae911truth.org http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org http://www.patriotsquestion911.org http://www.stj911.org 70% percent of family members questions were UNANSWERED during the 9/11 commission.

Whoever feels that the govt. told us the complete and correct story is turning blind eyes and ears to murder. And how on Earth can anyone believe what we’ve been told about 9/11 by a complicit govt. when this criminal administration has lied to us almost every day since …

http://www.ae911truth.org

http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org

http://www.patriotsquestion911.org

http://www.stj911.org

]]> by: Karol http://toddseavey.com/2007/10/30/debate-at-lolita-bar-did-the-government-know-in-advance-about-911/#comment-5040 Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:06:25 +0000 http://toddseavey.com/2007/10/30/debate-at-lolita-bar-did-the-government-know-in-advance-about-911/#comment-5040 Kissinger? Jeeeeeeez. Kissinger? Jeeeeeeez.

]]> by: Louis Charles http://toddseavey.com/2007/10/30/debate-at-lolita-bar-did-the-government-know-in-advance-about-911/#comment-4994 Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:40:45 +0000 http://toddseavey.com/2007/10/30/debate-at-lolita-bar-did-the-government-know-in-advance-about-911/#comment-4994 Rudy, Where are those flight recorders buried? LC Rudy,

Where are those flight recorders buried?

LC

]]> by: Sander Hicks http://toddseavey.com/2007/10/30/debate-at-lolita-bar-did-the-government-know-in-advance-about-911/#comment-4991 Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:56:43 +0000 http://toddseavey.com/2007/10/30/debate-at-lolita-bar-did-the-government-know-in-advance-about-911/#comment-4991 Civility is still possible. I am personally committed to a clean, sincere, formal debate. It will follow its own rules. The moderators can be counted on to keep it free of interruptions, rudeness, or insanity. It must. The issue here is too important. I'm also committed to be like the Apostle Paul, and "fight the good fight" in a rigorous, erudite, competitive struggle this Wednesday. In fact, I feel empathy for Karol, to have to defend such an untenable position, to have to stand with the globally-hated Bush and Cheney and Kissinger, war-mongerers with blood on their hands. Ah, but I digress. See you THERE, Wednesday, 8 PM, Nolita Bar! Civility is still possible. I am personally committed to a clean, sincere, formal debate. It will follow its own rules. The moderators can be counted on to keep it free of interruptions, rudeness, or insanity. It must. The issue here is too important.

I’m also committed to be like the Apostle Paul, and “fight the good fight” in a rigorous, erudite, competitive struggle this Wednesday. In fact, I feel empathy for Karol, to have to defend such an untenable position, to have to stand with the globally-hated Bush and Cheney and Kissinger, war-mongerers with blood on their hands. Ah, but I digress. See you THERE, Wednesday, 8 PM, Nolita Bar!

]]> by: Koli http://toddseavey.com/2007/10/30/debate-at-lolita-bar-did-the-government-know-in-advance-about-911/#comment-4940 Sun, 04 Nov 2007 22:35:48 +0000 http://toddseavey.com/2007/10/30/debate-at-lolita-bar-did-the-government-know-in-advance-about-911/#comment-4940 Rbrand, perhaps science doesn't "lie" but I think you have the science *wrong* in this case. The towers were not supported primarily by interior "support columns" but by a combination of vertical steel trusses in their outer shells and their central elevator cores. I would recommend the PBS documentary by Ric Burns called "The Center of the World" to get a full history of the towers, including their unique structural features. Rbrand, perhaps science doesn’t “lie” but I think you have the science *wrong* in this case. The towers were not supported primarily by interior “support columns” but by a combination of vertical steel trusses in their outer shells and their central elevator cores.

I would recommend the PBS documentary by Ric Burns called “The Center of the World” to get a full history of the towers, including their unique structural features.

]]> by: Todd Seavey http://toddseavey.com/2007/10/30/debate-at-lolita-bar-did-the-government-know-in-advance-about-911/#comment-4909 Sun, 04 Nov 2007 02:10:50 +0000 http://toddseavey.com/2007/10/30/debate-at-lolita-bar-did-the-government-know-in-advance-about-911/#comment-4909 I don't think so. I don’t think so.

]]> by: Joe http://toddseavey.com/2007/10/30/debate-at-lolita-bar-did-the-government-know-in-advance-about-911/#comment-4907 Sun, 04 Nov 2007 01:16:29 +0000 http://toddseavey.com/2007/10/30/debate-at-lolita-bar-did-the-government-know-in-advance-about-911/#comment-4907 I can't be there. Are their plans to film and You Tube it? Thanks. I can’t be there. Are their plans to film and You Tube it?
Thanks.

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